Sheron Cardin's Input...: HELP! My Paper Shredder Needs to Learn How to Fly...

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HELP! My Paper Shredder Needs to Learn How to Fly...

I need help and I only have a couple of weeks to teach my puppy how to fly. Awhile back I posted about my New and improved energy efficient paper shredder. I am taking Buddy to Seattle with me August 7th and I want him to sit on my lap in the cabin.

Here is what I know for sure:

  • Buddy can sit on my lap if I tell the stewards I need him for emotional reasons (and I do)
  • He is supposed to be able to fit into a 17"x11"x9 1/2" canvas travel carrier comfortable
  • If he cannot move around comfortably then he will have to go into a larger carrier and go down below in the plane
  • Buddy is at my feet 20 hours a day and freaks out when he can't see me and I have to get a puppy sitter just to go to Costco so....
  • I just bought the carrier and he has never been in one.
  • I set him in there and he is too big (he weights 13 pounds already) and cannot move freely nor can he stand up which is what is required by Alaska Air.

I need to take Buddy with me. He has 4 new friends waiting to meet him and play with him for a full 7 days...

4 dogs buddy

Does anyone have experience with dogs flying and what I can possibly do to get Buddy to Seattle? 

 

Namaste

Comment balloon 25 commentsSheron Cardin • July 19 2007 09:37AM

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My mom has 2 shih tzus, and I had to go with her to get them to CA a couple of years ago... it's a lot of fun, but you definitely need to get doggy valium from your vet.  It will keep him calm during the ear popping and such...  my mom's are 10 pounds and 18 pounds, and they could stand in theirs, and they had the basic ones that are meant to fit under the seat in front of you.  Just go back and get a larger size. 

When walking around the airport, keep the top unzipped so he can see what's going on around him, and he'll freak out less... plus, he'll get tons of attention from kids and will probably love it.  Once on the plane, he'll need to stay in the carrier until takeoff, but then you can take him out and put him in your lap, but then you'll get everyone in line for the bathroom talking with you too.

Just go get the next size up, and you'll be fine... if our bigger one had no problems, yours at 13 pounds shouldn't either.  Doggy valium is VERY important!!

Posted by Donna Harris, Realtor,Mediator,Ombudsman,Property Tax Arbitrator (Donna Homes, powered by JPAR - TexasRealEstateMediationServices.com) about 12 years ago

OMG I am so glad someone answered my plea. Donna, 18 pounds? Wow! Sounds like Buddy still has some growing to do because he is in the larger category. I will contact the airlines again and asked them about the larger size carrier, I did see one but was given specific dimensions. I will definitely be giving him the tranquilizers and maybe at home as well (just kidding) 

Any training tips on how to train Buddy to be content in the carrier?

Thank you!!! 

Posted by Sheron Cardin, ARTIST - A Home Stager/Sellers Best Friend! (California Moods Inc) about 12 years ago

Actually, the bigger one was 20 pounds, and she doesn't eat hardly anything.  She's just a bigger version, where as the smaller one was just bred smaller. 

Personally, I wouldn't call the airline for a specific dimension.  They're not going to measure it when you get it there.  The actual person taking your ticket is just going to see that you have carry on luggage.  Then just walk casually to your seat.  Most airlines have a "standard" amount of room under the seat since their planes are all built by the same handful of makers... if it's made as a travel carrier for airplanes, it's going to fit.  They don't always fit the greatest on an isle seat because the bar is in a little, but even though the carriers are sturdy, they still bend a little, and you'll be just fine.

As for making him content, as I mentioned, keep the top unzipped as much as possible so he can see what's around him.  Don't completely unzip it or he might think he's allowed to jump out.  Just enough for his little head to look around.  He'll be just fine!  They adjust quickly.

Posted by Donna Harris, Realtor,Mediator,Ombudsman,Property Tax Arbitrator (Donna Homes, powered by JPAR - TexasRealEstateMediationServices.com) about 12 years ago

Sheron, I have never flown with my pets but your buddy is a twin of my Skylar.  Both of my kids saw the picture and thought he WAS Skylar.  And I don't have a recent picture but I will get one!  Sorry I can't help you with the flying issue, I'd plead emotional distress to the hilt if that's what they told you would get you to keep him on your lap.

In dealing with the airlines recently for my trip, their rules are very specific; but on several issues I've called three different times and have gotten three different answers.  I'd call and ask to speak to a manager, get his name and number and document everything he tells you.  Or a note from you doctor, see if that would satisfy them.  You don't want a problem when you go to check in. 

Posted by Laura Cerrano, Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher (Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island) about 12 years ago
BTW, have you thought of "Rescue Remedy" by Bach Flower Essences?  It's all natural and safe...
Posted by Laura Cerrano, Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher (Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island) about 12 years ago

Hi Carole - thanks for you input. I think I will call again and see what the counter says. I talked to the airlines concierge and she sounded like she was reading a script. I want a current picture of you too!

Rescue Remedy??? Completely forgot about that. I am making a note...what does mint and rosemary do? I grow those. 

Posted by Sheron Cardin, ARTIST - A Home Stager/Sellers Best Friend! (California Moods Inc) about 12 years ago

Sheron I never had a flying Dog..LOL!. OMG they are all so adorable.

Anyway my advice. ...if you are going to try any remedies for sedation, please try it out before you go...

Have a great trip and keep us posted!

Ginger

Posted by Ginger Sala, Wilmington NC Real Estate & Relocation~ (Wilkinson & Associates, Wilmington NC) about 12 years ago

Sheron - how I envy you being able to travel with Buddy. I have to leave my goldens in the kennels whenever I leave town. Just a couple of thoughts from my many years as a flight attendant and 16 years in the airlines. Cross your t's and dot all your i's before you get to the airport. As much as I would like to to agree with Donna, there is always one check-in agent who wants to go by the book and insists on measuring your carry on pooch bag. Wouldn't it be awful to be told that he can't go with you when its an hour before departure? Get specifics from the airline - in writing if possible - perhaps from their website or in an e-mail. You may also want to check that you don't need some sort of letter saying that Buddy is your 'care' dog - just telling the flight attendant that you need him on your lap might not fly (excuse the pun) on the day. If the passengers next to you object - its hard to believe, but not everyone loves our dogs - you might need the extra leverage of a letter from your doctor. I definitely agree with Ginger - try any sedatives out on your dog before your travel day and remember that drugs, like alcohol, can have a stronger effect in the air than on the ground.

Bon voyage:)

Stephanie

Posted by Stephanie Heron, Weeber - Dressing Rooms (Dressing Rooms LLC) about 12 years ago

Ginger - you are brilliant...thank you!

Stephanie - I have a feeling in my stomach that things can go wrong. That is why I posted about it and I want to make sure everything runs smoothly. I am taking all you advice and I am going to take a dry run to the airport and let them see and approve Buddy. Our airport is almost always empty so it is no big deal. Aren't I supposed to be shopping for some new outfits???

Thank you for wanting to help me and coming to my rescue! 

Posted by Sheron Cardin, ARTIST - A Home Stager/Sellers Best Friend! (California Moods Inc) about 12 years ago

Sheron, I HAD to find this.....think they're brothers?  Geez, even our floors look alike :)  Meet Skylar.

Feng Shui Long Island Pet

Posted by Laura Cerrano, Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher (Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island) about 12 years ago
Skylar is too cute...really! I love his brown ears and gray beard. Oh we have to set a play date.
Posted by Sheron Cardin, ARTIST - A Home Stager/Sellers Best Friend! (California Moods Inc) about 12 years ago
He's not grey...yet!  He's only 2.  My mother's dog is getting grey and I still see him as a baby....Feng Shui PetsHe looks like one of the toys :)  Now get Rescue Remedy while you're out :)
Posted by Laura Cerrano, Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher (Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island) about 12 years ago
Sheron, you need to find out what size airplane you will be on.  If its a regional jet  a larger carrier won't fit under the seat, which they require during take off and landing.  Someone already suggested getting more input from the airline.  I'd definitely do that because you don't want to be at the ticket counter and find out they won't let your dog in the cabin.  Also, its up to the flight crew as to whether you can take your dog out of the carrier or not.  So don't assume you can just because customer service told you it was OK.  Good luck and happy flying.
Posted by Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495 (Stage it Right!) about 12 years ago
Terry - you are right on all counts. I don't think I will take him if he has to fly below.
Posted by Sheron Cardin, ARTIST - A Home Stager/Sellers Best Friend! (California Moods Inc) about 12 years ago
Oh Sheron, no way should you put your dog in cargo.  Its a total nightmare for the animals.  And they are at the mercy of the ground crew loading and unloading.  Remember the dog that escaped at the airport in NY and has never been found?  And animals have been left outside in the heat or freezing cold, and several years ago a ground crew member removed a dog from his crate and beat it to death, presumably because it was barking or growling and pissed him off.  The skies are not animal friendly by any stretch of the imagination.
Posted by Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495 (Stage it Right!) about 12 years ago

Terry, I won't let that happen. I may have to leave him behind but don't really have anyone I can count on soooooo?

Carole - He is so cute. He needs to spend more time with Skyler! As far as Rescue Remedy...gees, I have to find it first. But am very interested. I asked you about mint and rosemary...good combo? 

Posted by Sheron Cardin, ARTIST - A Home Stager/Sellers Best Friend! (California Moods Inc) about 12 years ago
Hi again Sheron, I used Rescue Remedy years ago.  It was recommended by a dog behaviorist I used to work with.  I got it at the health food store.  So, if you cant take Buddy with you, and you have no other pets at home, I highly recommend you find a good boarding kennel.  Not the vet, because they have sick dogs there too.  I used to work at one, and even though they are not "home" the dogs are not lonely and they get good care.  Most importantly, they are safe.  I've used a pet sitter the past 11 years so haven't had to find a kennel here in Florida.  But I also have multiple animals so the lonely factor is not an issue.  So, is Buddy a preppie or a greaser :-)?
Posted by Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495 (Stage it Right!) about 12 years ago

I think it is Bach Rescue Remedy - I have seen it in pet supply catalogues.

http://www.oes.org/page1/Bach-Rescue-Remedy.html

here is an article on it. 

Posted by Kathleen Lordbock, Keller Williams Realty Professionals (Keller Williams Realty Professionals) about 12 years ago
I didn't know Rescue Remedy was for dogs. I don't know if I have time. I am trying to train him to relax in the carrier for one minute. Not bad. We are going to rely heavily on drugs, I can see that. He does fit and can turn around but he cannot stand up and I think that may be the norm.  This may have a happy ending yet with the help of all my support friends here.
Posted by Sheron Cardin, ARTIST - A Home Stager/Sellers Best Friend! (California Moods Inc) about 12 years ago
They are usually pretty happy when they are near you and have their head out. Think ,very cute turtle!
Posted by Kathleen Lordbock, Keller Williams Realty Professionals (Keller Williams Realty Professionals) about 12 years ago
I guess I should wrap this post up by saying we made it to Seattle and back safely and I posted about the GREAT ESCAPE Buddy managed to pull off while we were there.
Posted by Sheron Cardin, ARTIST - A Home Stager/Sellers Best Friend! (California Moods Inc) over 11 years ago
Hi We fly dogs to shows and for breeding.  Delta has a service which is cargo but is in a tempature controled and pressurized area of the plane.  They are very good.  You will need to get a health certificate from your vet within 7 days of flight.  Make sure that you put him on a non stop flight from a Delta hub.  That is the best advice that I can give.  For the future get him registered as a service dog and they have to permit him on the plane with you.
Posted by Gayle Balaban, E. TN Waterfront Real Estate (The Best Spot Realty/Waterfront Real Estate/Ooltewah Real E) over 11 years ago
OK Gayle - that is a new one...how can I get Buddy registered as a service dog?
Posted by Sheron Cardin, ARTIST - A Home Stager/Sellers Best Friend! (California Moods Inc) over 11 years ago
I've never flown with a pet but have had GSD puppies flown in from out of state.   My husband and I watched out the window when my first pup was unloaded from the plane and the Vari Kennel was nearly upside-down!  The pup was not happy by the time he got to us. 
Posted by Jennifer Esposito (JenRan Realty, LLC) over 11 years ago
There is enough trauma and drama in the world without adding to it. When children and animals suffer, I suffer with them. No more flying for us.
Posted by Sheron Cardin, ARTIST - A Home Stager/Sellers Best Friend! (California Moods Inc) over 11 years ago

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